Oh my ever-loving goodness! More honesty than usual! Hat tip to Joseph Sciambra for posting this one: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wfbYRJN-jWE
Fr. James Martin has become emboldened by his new-found (and maybe just in the plan of the Holy Spirit’s plan) appointment hat we’re not backing down despite his best efforts to tell us we really suffer from same-sex attraction and that we’re insecure in our sexuality. Um, 20-something years and a bunch of kids later, Fr. Martin, I can assure you that isn’t true. Oh wait, honey, sorry to tell you…. The idea that people who disagree with you must be paranoid that they are SSA is ridiculous. Nice try though. Classic move. Reality is, we just think you kind of stink. (I’m hoping I get time off of purgatory for not using the crass version of what I really think!)
First, he can’t really decide whether or not he’s a theologian. Every other day he’s saying he is or he’s saying he know something about it. Sorry, Father Martin, who it is and who it is not accepted by is irrelevant. Might read a little on the Reformation.
At the 3:53 minute he’s actually admitting something he’s not before. He’s admitting that he thinks “gay marriage” will become a reality. Praise the Lord! Can we now silence him? Pope Francis! Did you catch that one? This is your mouthpiece and heresy is kind of a no-no.
And somewhere around 5:31 he says we shouldn’t take the bible literally. I could agree with that in some areas where the Church gives its interpretation but, hello! How any time have we heard this guy and his buds spew “Judge not lest ye be judged????” Only about a million.
And, of course around 5:41 he states the majority of us are homophobic. There’s a shocker. Let me clue people in as I have so many times before. I do not fear people suffering from same-sex attraction. I fear the “gay lifestyle”, “gay activities” and what it’s doing to society, to the Church and too many friends! Listen, unless we all get on board with struggling with our personal temptations, we are all doomed as a society. Deal. I’m not going to candy coat it. Of course, God wins in the end but it can be hell on earth until that happens.
Around 6 minutes in, he basically says he can say “Love the sinner, hate the sin!” but if we say it, there’s no love. Let me clue you in, Fr. Martin. We are angry and justly so because you’ve led people to believe the Church is going to change i’s stance on marriage because some don’t receive it. Is there love? You betcha! If we didn’t love the person suffering from SSA we wouldn’t care less about them or you. This is why we counter your crud at most turns. It has little do with us and everything to do with those we care about.
Around 6:16 he says most of those opposed to his book think we know no “gays” or we only know “former gays.” Really, Fr. Martin? Get a stinking grip. While a minority, you don’t have to join the “Fr. Martin Fan Club” to know someone suffering with same-sex attraction. Yeah, we’re not “snide” as people are referred to. Although, quite frankly, I’m probably a huge eye-roller when it comes to people mentioning because it makes me so angry that you cause so much division and that you lead so many souls astray. I can only reassure my friends, relatives, co-workers, etc. that I have no ill will towards you and that I wish you join me in the struggle against Satan that I’m waging where my temptations lie. Fr. Martin? He wants your accolades and couldn’t give a darn what whether or not you’re in a SSA relationship and get hit by a bus tomorrow.
At 7:10 Fr. Martin, once again, promotes the fear idea. This, as usual, is his way of saying we are great big meanies and we’re only it if for ourselves. How about you build a bridge my way Fr. Martin. Maybe you should spend a whole lot more time with people who worry about their immortal soul and those of others before you bother to write a book. How about that idea? I’d surmise that we’ve spent a whole lot more time with those suffering from SSA than you have spent with those whose primary focus is the everlasting life with God!
And new? Please! There were people struggling with SSA when I was in high school (and quite frankly, probably earlier). While I’m not as old of you, it has been a part of my life for many, many a year. Get over yourself.
Around 7:35 he talks of those who bring in the hopes and desire of their “LGBT” family members. Let’s just stop for a second and thin about why that’s happening. Oh yeah, it’s you, Fr. Martin. While you should be encouraging people to struggle, you’re encouraging them to dream that their wishes will someday become true. How totally and utterly sad. How about you teach them to take up their cross like the rest of us, no matter what it is, and join us in seeking everlasting life? I guess you’d have to buy into Truth before that happens.
8:35, Fr. Martin tells us that if we knew “gay couples” we wouldn’t be able to deny that people reached out to people in the margins to which we give a hearty “Duh!” to Fr. Martin. That said, Christ did what he refuses to do. Christ told them to “Go and sin not more!” You don’t even mention sin, Fr. Martin, unless it’s the false sin of judging actions. And, let me be blunt, we don’t see Jesus in sodomy and masturbation. Another “Duh!”
At 9:35, commentator tells us we’re against “all things homosexual.” Again, please. We are not against homosexuals. In fact, apparently, they’re the reason I blog as of late. We are against the ACTIVITIES of any person engaging in activities that are harmful to their souls. So, think about this people suffering from SSA. Either Fr. Martin doesn’t believe in the teaching of the Church or he does and he’s willing to throw you under the bus in hopes that they are changed by consensus (which cannot happen).
At 10:03 interviewer tells us that theological teaching “does have to come into contact with the state of things on the ground. And, in the U.S., the shape of things on the ground, is such that a lot of Catholics do support gay marriage.” Fr. Martin then goes out to say that in sub-Saharan Africa you’d be run out of town. Then he goes onto allude that theologians (which he always says he is not) would agree with him and that “Church leaders” would not despite that the people of God are being led by the Holy Spirit. The Church leaders resist that and then he goes back to the “reception of teaching” which he never actually gives Church teaching on. (Did we really expect him to?) Hmmmm…Why would that be? Oh, maybe it’s because the Deposit of Faith doesn’t lie with us!
Near 11:35 he brings up Humanae Vitae. How nice of him to admit it’s still in effect. Gee thanks. I’m not sure what “Made their peace” with it means as far as the majority of the laity. You can’t really have peace when you are thwarting God’s laws but, whatever. He then goes on to talk of the divide between the “theological world and the Episcopacy.” Uh, translation: The divide between Fr. Martin and cronies and the Church.
At 12:31 Fr. Martin asks why it is so terrible to go to a “gay wedding” but it is not terrible to go to a Jewish wedding. Well, Fr. Martin, if you’d have a clue, you’d know that A) a “gay wedding” is never considered valid in the eyes of the Church and that a b) Jewish wedding would be considered valid in the eyes of the Church as long as one of the parties was not Catholic and that the Jewish religion considered it valid. If someone was an apostate (converted to Judaism) they are not longer bound by the Catholic law. I would think that a priest in the Catholic Church would kind of know that, and I’m rather sure he does. These are two TOTALLY different scenarios. Of course, Fr. Martin then goes on to tug at the heartstrings and talk about “people that you love.” Fr. Martin, if I loved a person I wouldn’t want their temporal happiness in lieu of their everlasting happiness. Wanting the latter is TRUE LOVE!
And, as he’s done before, he tugs at the heartstrings at 13:25 in regards to people losing their jobs after posting pictures of their weddings Hello!!!!! How about people losing their immortal souls???? A little more important than people losing their livelihoods, wouldn’t you say?
Then he asks at 13:35 how it’s worse to go to a civil wedding than a Jewish wedding? Uh, one condones sodomy/masturbation and the other does not? How’s that for starters? Then he puts for the premise that “it’s worse to be a Christian and gay than to reject Jesus.” Uh, you aren’t really practicing the Christian faith if you are an active homosexual. At least being an apostate is a little more honest. Neither or good but when you are an apostate, you are not bound to the Canon Law.
At 14:45 Fr. Martin thinks it’s a beautiful story that the interviewer’s parents are walking him down the isle at her non-Catholic, “gay wedding.” How ridiculously sad is this? They keep talking about them “coming around.” Coming around to what? Had a conversion to what? A union full of sodomy and masturbation? How beautiful. And then the biggie. Fr. Martin states “This is what Jesus does.” Isn’t it interesting how the Fr. Martins of this world never use “Go and sin no more” woman but the women at the well. Reality is that the scenario is rather the same but they just can’t see it that way. Christ holds us accountable for our sins. The Fr. Martins of this world would like you to miss that.
15:29 Fr. Martin talks about how beautiful it is that this guy’s parents can celebrate his love with his same-sex partner. Really? Maybe I should clue Fr. Martin in. You do understand that it means she will be engaging in masturbation and/or sodomy, right? I mean, I’m pretty sure he does but I just have to ask so he can obfuscate a bit more. It’s fun watching him twist pretzels.
15:45 Martin then has the utter audacity at ask “how could God not rejoice in that kind of reconciliation and bridge building?” You know, the kind where you jump off a spiritual cliff and reject the teachings of Christ’s Church? Yeah, that reconciliation. Honestly, I kind of want to vomit about the lack of Truth going on in this conversation. I swear, when they were handing out millstones, Fr. Martin shoved people out of the way to claim his. Here’s hoping he truly figures out those aren’t diamonds.
At 16:20 Fr. Martin suggests that those who can’t come to this guy’s wedding have more of a clue than you, Fr. Martin. Then, of course, he goes onto compare it to those that refuse to come to a wedding based on race. Just when you think he can’t get any more stupid. Sigh.
Oh my ever-loving goodness! More honesty than usual! Hat tip to Joseph Sciambra for posting this one: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wfbYRJN-jWE
I really have no time this week but I can tell when a blog post is just going to write itself, and this one will!
First off, I really thought Fr. James Martin, SJ was doing a stellar job managing his own martyr complex. I mean, seriously, he really had no need for help on this front. He’s got that locked up. Now, maybe Bishop McElroy is sad everyone’s pretty much ignoring him, except those who can’t. (Sorry, San Diego faithful!) This was a probably a frantic attention grab. “Look at me! I’m over here and I’m a cool Catholic too!”
That said, it’s been a really bad few weeks for Fr. Martin. Maybe the troops are just trying to re-inflate his ego after Cardinal Sarah, revoked invitations here and here, a smack-down of the “canonical approval” of his book idea– and who could forget his own misstep at Fordham where the entire panel, including him, admitted he wasn’t being candid because being a priest and Jesuit precluded him from being so. (How stupid I felt after all of these years thinking that’s what a priest/Jesuit was supposed to do!)
Here’s Bishop McElroy’s public shaming of the meanies:
Father James Martin is a distinguished Jesuit author who has spent his life building bridges within the Catholic Church and between the church and the wider world.
When did “notorious” and “distinguished” become synonymous? And, wait! “Building bridges WITHIN the Catholic Church?!?!” I can only remotely see that being said if “building” includes a complete demolition of the Church first.
He has been particularly effective in bringing the Gospel message to the millennial generation.
Oh, he’s bringing a message to the millennial generation, alright, but it’s not quite from the Gospels unless we’re going with some sort of Gnostic Gospel.
When we survey the vast gulf that exists between young adults and the church in the United States, it is clear that there could be no more compelling missionary outreach for the future of Catholicism than the terrain that Father Martin has passionately and eloquently pursued over the past two decades. There are few evangelizers who have engaged that terrain with more heart and skill and devotion.
I think I must have missed Fr. James Martin, SJ becoming a millennial rockstar who’s packing the churches full of millennials. Please. Can we be just a little honest here? Fr. Martin, SJ reaches those who believe in an active homosexual lifestyle and those who sympathize with active homosexual lifestyles. Now, apparently, Bishop McElroy thinks that all or most millennials are concerned with the Catholic Church and her attitude toward homosexuality. Yeah, not so much. Most are just worried about their lifestyle choices being accepted by whoever. To say that millennials at large are screaming like Beatles fans over Fr. Martin, SJ is to be suffering from SJW (social justice warrior, for those not up with the current shorthand) delusions of grandeur. How about you walk up to the nearest millennial and ask them if they even know who Fr. James Martin, SJ is?
Last year Father Martin undertook a particularly perilous project in this work of evangelization: building bridges between the church and the L.G.B.T. community in the United States. He entered it knowing that the theological issues pertaining to homosexuality constituted perhaps the most volatile element of ecclesial life in U.S. culture.
And here’s where I think Bishop McElroy is totally out of touch. He actually thinks that this is the be all and end of all of Catholic life. “If only we could span this active homosexual/Church doctrine divide with a bridge, our churches would be full again!” Sorry. You want to see THE “most volatile element of ecclesial life in the U.S. culture?” Try birth control. Try IVF. Try cohabitating. Try sex outside of marriage. Take your pick. Bishop McElroy, Fr. Martin, and their little club don’t realize that the rest of the Church is focused on other things.
It was this very volatility that spurred Father Martin to write his new book Building a Bridge: How the Catholic Church and the L.G.B.T. Community Can Enter into a Relationship of Respect, Compassion and Sensitivity. Using a methodology that is fully consonant with Catholic teaching, employing Scripture, the rich pastoral heritage of the church and an unadulterated realism that makes clear both the difficulty and the imperative for establishing deeper dialogue, Father Martin opens a door for proclaiming that Jesus Christ and his church seek to embrace fully and immediately men and women in the L.G.B.T. community.
Wow! I thought that the Church’s teaching was constant with Catholic teaching but, hey, whatever. Why is it that Fr. Martin, SJ feels the need to open a door for any of us? Who are all of these people saying anything different than “Jesus Christ and his church seek to embrace fully and immediately men and women in the L.G.B.T. community?” Please don’t fall for the “If I say it enough it’ll be true!” tactic of Martin, Cupich, McElroy, and club. They know quite well we’re begging those suffering from SSA to embrace the Church because we love them In short, while we tell them the Church loves them, we also tell them what the Church teaches and how the Church has helped us to struggle with our own sins. Fr. Martin and fan club don’t want that to get out, so they’ll try to convince as many others as they can to join in the martyr complex.
Building a Bridge is a serious book, and any such work invites substantive criticism and dialogue.
If I had been drinking, my keyboard would be toast. How did he type that one with a straight face? I believe Cardinal Sarah just gave you plenty of substantive criticism and dialogue, along with MANY others. It apparently fell on rather deaf ears so let me just remind you, Bishop McElroy: http://catholicherald.co.uk/news/2017/09/01/cardinal-sarah-critiques-fr-james-martin-on-homosexuality/
This is particularly true with a complex subject like the relationship of the L.G.B.T. community and the church. Many analyses of Father Martin’s arguments have pointed to important problems that do not have easy answers and to the reality that dialogue must always proceed both in respect and in truth.
Wouldn’t this be quite similar with any group struggling with sin? Hey, here’s an idea: how about some generic homilies on overcoming temptation and sin? Oh wait. I think you’d actually have to use the words temptation, sin, struggle, etc. and those words are so judge-y. Silly me.
But alongside this legitimate and substantive criticism of Father Martin’s book, there has arisen both in Catholic journals and on social media a campaign to vilify Father Martin, to distort his work, to label him heterodox, to assassinate his personal character and to annihilate both the ideas and the dialogue that he has initiated.
How can you distort something that’s already distorted? That was on Fr. Martin. While there are some people out there with evil intent, there are many out there with VERY just anger! We have friends who suffer. We have friends whose kids suffer, etc. We don’t live in the SJW ivory tower. We live in the real world. We get to live with the very real effects of a world that gives up its struggle against sin. So, please, drop the proxy martyr complex. And, by the way, Fr. Martin assassinated his character a long time ago.
This campaign of distortion must be challenged and exposed for what it is—not primarily for Father Martin’s sake but because this cancer of vilification is seeping into the institutional life of the church.
I can hear the violins now. Let’s break out a little honest, shall we? The cancer in the Church is not those of us angry with sin, it’s those who placate sin. That kind of means you, Bishop McElroy. You speak of distortion but you don’t even bother to offer evidence. So who is really the one distorting what’s going on here? Is it you or, say, Cardinal Sarah? Let me guess. Your position as a priest and bishop limits you to ambiguous accusations, right?
Already, several major institutions have canceled Father Martin as a speaker. Faced with intense external pressures, these institutions have bought peace, but in doing so they have acceded to and reinforced a tactic and objectives that are deeply injurious to Catholic culture in the United States and to the church’s pastoral care for members of the L.G.B.T. communities.
Bravo “major institutions!” Your stance for clear, concise Catholic teaching in the case of Fr. Martin is laudable! Your aid to those of us who struggle with sin, and in this case particularly those struggling with same-sex attraction, is appreciated. Go Catholics!
The concerted attack on Father Martin’s work has been driven by three impulses: homophobia, a distortion of fundamental Catholic moral theology and a veiled attack on Pope Francis and his campaign against judgmentalism in the church.
Oh, ho! Not good enough to be a proxy martyr for Fr. Martin, now it’s Pope Francis? And judgmentalism? Uh, hello! Judge away, as far as sin goes, people! Here’s a nice little section of the catechism on judgement. Not shockingly, it’s in the conscience section and, also not shockingly, Bishop McElroy and pals seem to hope to keep you hopelessly in the dark to its existence with their nice little vilification (a word Bishop McElroy is fond of) of judging.
1795 “Conscience is man’s most secret core, and his sanctuary. There he is alone with God whose voice echoes in his depths” (GS 16).
1796 Conscience is a judgment of reason by which the human person recognizes the moral quality of a concrete act.
1797 For the man who has committed evil, the verdict of his conscience remains a pledge of conversion and of hope.
1798 A well-formed conscience is upright and truthful. It formulates its judgments according to reason, in conformity with the true good willed by the wisdom of the Creator. Everyone must avail himself of the means to form his conscience.
1799 Faced with a moral choice, conscience can make either a right judgment in accordance with reason and the divine law or, on the contrary, an erroneous judgment that departs from them.
1800 A human being must always obey the certain judgment of his conscience.
1801 Conscience can remain in ignorance or make erroneous judgments. Such ignorance and errors are not always free of guilt.
1802 The Word of God is a light for our path. We must assimilate it in faith and prayer and put it into practice. This is how moral conscience is formed.
The attacks on Building a Bridge tap into long-standing bigotry within the church and U.S. culture against members of the L.G.B.T. community.
Or it’s a load of hooey. I vote that.
The persons launching these attacks portray the reconciliation of the church and the L.G.B.T. community not as a worthy goal but as a grave cultural, religious and familial threat. Gay sexual activity is seen not as one sin among others but as uniquely debased to the point that L.G.B.T. persons are to be effectively excluded from the family of the church. Pejorative language and labels are deployed regularly and strategically. The complex issues of sexual orientation and its discernment in the life of the individual are dismissed and ridiculed.
Prove your case, Bishop McElroy, and stop with all of the ambiguous accusations. I realize it’s just easier to say “There’s a boogeyman under your bed!” but wouldn’t it be nice to treat people like they have half a brain?
Now, Bishop, I know you’re hoping that people are just going to take your word for it but I am going to actually put the link to the teaching: http://www.vatican.va/archive/ccc_css/archive/catechism/p3s2c2a6.htm
Yeah, I know many have seen this before but I see a whole lot of other “offenses” against chastity listed there. I see some for married folk, single folk, and same-sex attracted folk. What I always find a bit ironic is that, while you seem to think same-sex attracted people deserves special treatment when it comes to their sins, you also claim offense that the Church has a special section right before the special section for married folks. Also, did anyone see the part of Church teaching which dismisses or ridicules the complex situation of sexual orientation? Yeah, me neither.
The coordinated attack on Building a Bridge must be a wake-up call for the Catholic community to look inward and purge itself of bigotry against the L.G.B.T. community. If we do not, we will build a gulf between the church and L.G.B.T. men and women and their families. Even more important, we will build an increasing gulf between the church and our God.
Well, that IS funny. I so wish we could have a coordinated attack against anyone leading those suffering from SSA into sin but, sadly, we have a lot of fronts we’re fighting. Wait! Did I just not get the call? Come on guys! I know I’m small time but could you just clue me in everyone once in a while????
The second corrosive impulse of the campaign against Building a Bridge flows from a distortion of Catholic moral theology.
Oh my. He is a bit paranoid, no? Honestly, Bishop, there is no campaign. There’s just a whole lot of us who think the book stinks and will further lead people to ditch the struggle in hope that Truth conforms to their will. No big conspiracy, although I’m totally going to be bummed if I found out there is one and nobody let me in on the secret handshake!
I think this is the third time or so I’m going to call you on your accusation, Bishop. I mean, I, as well as many others, have happily quoted Fr. Martin, SJ as our evidence time and again. Might you do the same in regards to the grand conspirators?
The goal of the Catholic moral life is to pattern our lives after that of Jesus Christ. We must model our interior and exterior selves on the virtues of faith, love, hope, mercy, compassion, integrity, sacrifice, prayerfulness, humility, prudence and more. One of these virtues is chastity. Chastity is a very important virtue of the Christian moral life. The disciple is obligated to confine genital sexual activity to marriage.
But chastity is not the central virtue in the Christian moral life. Our central call is to love the Lord our God with all our heart and to love our neighbor as ourselves. Many times, our discussions in the life of the church suggest that chastity has a singularly powerful role in determining our moral character or our relationship with God. It does not.
What the what??? Nice try, Bishop McElroy. Are you purposely trying to confuse people? Why are you mixing commandments and virtues? Chastity falls under the CARDINAL virtue of temperance. Again – READ. THE. CATECHISM. Do not take anything at face value. I will happily link to avoid “distortion:” http://www.vatican.va/archive/ccc_css/archive/catechism/p3s2c2a6.htm
By the way, if you gander at this link, you will find chastity a vocation to all. Meh. Small potatoes. (Sarcasm alert!)
Now, what is a Cardinal Virtue, you might ask (or at least Bishop McElroy should)? “The four principal virtues upon which the rest of the moral virtues turn or are hinged. http://www.newadvent.com/cathen/03343a.htm
No biggie. Oh, by the way again, it’s mighty hard to achieve the commandments of Christ you so confusingly stated without these virtues. But yeah, chastity isn’t central at all. It’s just a little itty-bitty footnote under the Cardinal Virtue of temperance.
This distortion of our faith cripples many of our discussions of sexuality in general and homosexuality in particular.
Oh, I totally agree on this. Too bad you are part of the problem and not part of the solution.
The overwhelming prism through which we should look at our moral lives is that we are all called to live out the virtues of Christ; we all succeed magnificently at some and fail at others. Those who emphasize the incompatibility of gay men or lesbian women living meaningfully within the church are ignoring the multidimensional nature of the Christian life of virtue or the sinfulness of us all or both.
OOOhhhh! This is actually kind of a good analogy you stumbled upon, Bishop McElroy. The geeky, science-loving girl is going to point out that when you look through a prism, it refracts or distorts! Maybe that’s your problem. Get a good pair of glasses and stop looking through prisms! You’re the one who supposedly hates distortions.
Listen, I’m really late to the game due to life flying at me a hundred miles an hour so, sorry. The film Because of Gracia has special previews Thursday, September 14th and opens in a limited release on September 15th. See here for a theater near you.
In the era of Game of Thrones, I like to wholeheartedly support an attempt at goodness. I don’t share the “boycott all media” mentality of some. I’ve been thrilled at some of the more recent releases in the Christian genre. Bella, For Greater Glory, Gimme Shelter and Little Boy are my favorites thus far and I’m hearing good things about Because of Gracia. Heck, I’d support this one just because of Moriah Peters and the way that the American Idol judges were offended at her attempt to remain chaste. I think she deserves a buck or ten simply for that one. I’m a mom. You don’t get to tell a talented kid trying to live the chaste life to toddle off and get some “life experience.” Please.
I’m one of those moms who doesn’t hesitate to drag her kids to things that make them pause. I don’t really ask if they want to go. Actually, my kids know resistance is futile so they might as well sit back, enjoy and contemplate. They usually end up appreciating quite a bit because they are amazing kids and, when it comes down to it, they want their lives and goodness mainstreamed instead of porn. I think this looks like one of those types of movies.
So, in this 100th anniversary year of Fatima where we we’ve been told that many people will wind up in hell due to sins of the flesh might it be nice to choose something wholesome for a change and tell the mainstream media to buzz off?! Personally, I’d like to get back to the days of wholesome entertainment. If we don’t support these types of things, how can we ever expect them to become mainstream again? We simply going to be stuck with movies and TV shows which show chastity as a farce. We know that “Our Lady has already crushed its head” but we must still fight the good fight and promoting wholesome entertainment is one very small way to do this. We need to change the culture. The Mass, prayer (especially the Rosary), fasting and sacrifices are the best to do this but we should use all of the weapons in our arsenal and the media is the newest weapon. When it’s used for good, we should support it.
On its face, it’s a good letter. Then I realized who wrote it and I cracked up. I’d love to think that, as Fr. Jenkins said, he is “one in whose heart ‘dogma lives loudly’”, but then I remember his ridiculous moves over the last 8 years. Let’s relive them, shall we?
In 2009, Notre Dame invited pro-abortion, pro-gay marriage, pro-contraception, pro-transgender President Obama to be the commencement speaker. A mere three years later, the institution had to sue the Obama administration for First Amendment violations.
As if that isn’t enough, just last year Notre Dame’s Laetare medal was given to then-Vice President Joe Biden (and somewhat less obnoxious John Boehner), and then Fr. Jenkins had the audacity to say this:
“One of our great challenges today is that people who disagree often will vilify, will attack, will demean the opposition, and then they can’t work with the opposition,” Father Jenkins said. “So we come to this impasse of acrimony, of intransigence, and it doesn’t serve society.”
Uh, Fr. Jenkins, might I remind you that you had to sue the opposition? They should be vilified, demeaned, and you shouldn’t work with them, invite them, or GIVE THEM AN AWARD! So says the Church, the USCCB and your local bishop.
Bishop Kevin Rhoades, the current bishop of Fort Wayne-South Bend, said on March 14, “I believe it is wrong for Notre Dame to honor any ‘pro-choice’ public official with the Laetare Medal, even if he/she has other positive accomplishments in public service, since direct abortion is gravely contrary to the natural law and violates a very fundamental principle of Catholic moral and social teaching.” In the 2004 document “Catholics in Political Life,” the U.S. bishops said that “failing to protect the lives of innocent and defenseless members of the human race is to sin against justice.” The document also prohibited Catholic institutions from honoring those “who act in defiance of our fundamental moral principles” with “awards, honors or platforms which would suggest support for their actions.”
No brainer to the faithful Catholic and yet this is what we get from Fr. Jenkins: “Gee, Mr. Biden, your administration tried to require us to violate our doctrine and cooperate with evil, but here’s an award for you anyway!” Give me a break!
Personally, I’m happy to be considered intransigent in matters of toeing the line when it comes to Catholic identity and doctrine. You betcha I’m not going to roll over and cheer Joe Biden. You betcha I’m going to complain, as did a HUGE group of your alumni. Please tell us, Fr. Jenkins, how honoring both Obama and Biden is working out for us. Did they suddenly stop advocating their agenda in opposition to the Catholic Faith? No, they didn’t. Your actions only served to further confuse people and make the Church look just a wee bit, well, stupid. Thanks.
So, what are we to think of this little letter to Di? My opinion? He couldn’t care less about the Faith. In fact, he really didn’t mention the Catholic Faith, truth, etc., in this statement. It had nothing to do with defending the Faith. It was just a response to an attack on an employee and alumnus of his precious institution, Amy Coney Barrett, and thereby himself. If the nominee had no ties to Notre Dame, I’m reasonably sure we could see Dianne Feinstein as a future commencement speaker or Laetare Medal recipient. So, I guess if “dogma” means “Notre Dame” this makes perfect sense. Otherwise, he has no problem honoring a parade of people who trounced Catholic dogma at every turn.
So, again, good letter. I just wish it had been penned by someone with some credibility. And, congratulation to Amy Coney Barrett. If you annoy Di, that’s good enough for me.
DISGUSTING: PARDON of FORMER SHERIFF ARPAIO
Are you kidding me, Cardinal Mahony?!? Do you really want to go there? I guess you already did and your groupies must be thrilled. With all the havoc you have caused, I’m a bit shocked you still have a following, but liberals are always willing to forget if you’ll be their mouthpiece, I suppose.
Some, Cardinal Mahony, would consider your entire reign as disgusting. You probably shouldn’t try to be the moral authority on disgusting behavior, although I would say you’re an expert in the area.
Before we go on, let’s look at a few of your awesome moves in your career:
Of course, then there’s the Taj Mahony. Can’t forget that tribute to, well, yourself.
Finally, there’s the Los Angeles Religious Education Congress. There are simply too many articles to post on that ”train REC”. Just use the little search box to the right.
The list could go on and on, but I think people are more than aware of the harm you have caused to children and the faithful at large.
Back to your holier than thou statement…
STATEMENT by CARDINAL ROGER MAHONY
PARDON OF FORMER SHERIFF ARPAIO
I am deeply troubled and disgusted by President Trump’s pardon of Joe Arapaio, former sheriff of Maricopa County in Arizona. The former sheriff’s tenure was marked by racial profiling, harassment of our Latino brothers and sisters, and the disruption of immigrant communities. He created fear and terror among so many immigrants, and not just in Arizona. Children here in California were afraid to go to school because of what they heard from Phoenix. He defied a court order to discontinue to round up immigrants and to detain them in inhumane conditions.
And you helped to create an atmosphere where several minors were abused. Children here, I’m sure documented and undocumented, were afraid to go to CHURCH thanks to you and your cronies. How many people have lost their faith because of you, between the abuse, the LA REC and your glorification of pro-abortion politicians??? But, please, blather on about Arpaio.
Rather than upholding it, President Trump’s pardon flouts and undermines the rule of law. It also sends a dangerous signal to law enforcement throughout the country that they, too, can ignore due process and profile and harass persons of color, especially Latinos. This pardon rekindles the fear and terror so rampant among our immigrant peoples. The police need good relationships with immigrants, and our immigrants need an understanding and helpful police force to protect them.
Anyone else think this is Mahony’s “Please look at anyone but me!” speech. “Let’s just forget about all of that soul crushing abuse stuff! I’m a friend of the immigrants!” Look, people can have their opinions about Arpaio. However, you, Cardinal Mahony, undermined far more than the rule of law. You led souls astray. You most certainly might want to spend your time contemplating Matt 18:6 instead of flapping your gums as if you are some sort of moral authority. Did you care about Latinos when you were covering up the Aguilar-Rivera tragedy? http://www.dailynews.com/general-news/20140219/roger-mahony-other-officials-tried-to-cover-up-church-sex-abuse-according-to-new-docs
It is clear that the President and his administration is intent on deporting as many immigrants as possible, regardless of their due process rights and the equities they have built in our country. In line with this goal, I am also troubled that the president may remove protections from young immigrants who qualify for the Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals (DACA) program. I urge him to find the moral courage to preserve the DACA program and to defend it rigorously in federal court.
Wow! Urging someone else to have moral courage, that’s rich. I can’t say that I care much for Trump, but, my gosh, he’s displayed way more moral courage than you’ve ever shown, which amazes me when I think about it. I mean, I would hope that a prince of my Church would have more moral authority than Donald Trump, but you’re not even close. That’s totally and utterly disgusting. Please, do us all a favor and let Archbishop Gomez, the guy who has a bit more moral standing than you, handle the situation while you just spend a little time thanking God for your freedom which you probably don’t deserve. I know that it’s hard for you to be out of the limelight, but maybe you could offer that up for the suffering of the many victims you helped to create.